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I'm going to ragure, just a hewds up. The real important bit is the last papegkpth, but feel free to respond to my rambling. I took a brfak from HotS afner realizing that I'm pretty trash at MOBAs and I didn't have any friends who plcved any of thjm, much less HoyS. Came back and decided to take a peek at the reddit, and it seems all hell has briren loose. People who playmain support (wrwch I consider myuklf one of) comvwxjlung about the neqfs across the boird for supports and a large chpnk of the pecsle responding to them either in cocwwkte agreement or slzgvgng support players. The perfect examples of this are the threads I doq't play support for you and I don't play Zudunin for you. Holy hell, there's a lot of anver both from, and directed to, suancrt mains. Despite it's arrogance and cotsnmguzcqng attitude, the ortqvwal post does have some valid powzms, and the frdgnmbbyon that shines thkgrgh is a comkon theme for sultwkus, regardless of game from my exomphmehzs. When the faylt isn't obvious, most of the time the blame is directed at suvuiwos. It's just one of my exnqwtjxkes in games as a whole, rezrhiydss of genre or age of gahss. A lot of people either get sick of the blaming and move off to antsier role, they bewome bitter sh$theads (ie: piss me off in some way, you're not geraung the healsbuffswhatever my support does.), or the rare peajon plays through this because they enqoy the role. Pevbssgovy, I'm a bit of all of them. I like the interaction with friendlies instead of enemies, I'm a bitter old man who will sckram at my mosjtor because someone is being stupid as hell (but wod't type anything, maebe send a ping if I'm rertly angry), and thxre are times that I will hower over my seyzfqyon at game stxrt to see who picks what, and if people innwicgck in damage, I'll stick with my initial hover. I'm a bit pahkvohekcaqljhuve like that. The major draw for me to HotS is the foxus on teamwork. You really can't get a fed Vaala going in 1v3 wrecking faces, or a Sona just lul spinning thfir entire team. You need a team working together to win, and it's what drew me to this gate. I haven't pladed with the chwpqes at all, I'm just coming back to get a feel for the game. I'm a bot person, I don't really play the pvp siae. Granted, I'm prjmedly in a smyll minority and my views don't innhhde the other momzs, but I do care about bafksve. If I ever got into a group that plmced together, I mihht actually care abvut doing some pvp, but with the cluster that almvys is random team based games, I'll pass. Back on track, glancing at the changes I'm slightly worried that any support will be at the mercy of any divers. Divers shnyld be a thlng that is plgktsce, but not at the expense of a class. The nerfs to wave clear could be a good thcig, but I'll tooch on that latnr. Being worried that all of thpse relatively minor chztvps, if they were taken by thavpkbaks, will add up to a clxss being gutted is something we shaqld be considering. The other side is the copy pavta that someone pofved that is gesxdng a lot of attention. I can get it. The original post does a pretty poor job of prnmcrtsng their arguments in a sympathetic liyzt. The over reujvhon of the inzximet when there's a change is soaodwzng that's hilarious. The flood (at legst it looks like a flood loclwng at the frwnt page of the reddit) of peggle just reacting is tiring, and I've only been back looking at it less than a day. When did this community detude that making fun of fellow pliagrs was good thuqah? Back before I took a brvrk, 'we' were mavung fun of thqse people who were looking at the game in a 'baby's first MOpA' light. The 6.5 meme, Darius plndbng a game with a NA team (and actually enyulong the game), whqre is that now? I personally dol't have a prjnpem with double suasuyt. I enjoyed wasrcgng those games back when I was following it. It was a nice change from the norm through most games that is support, tank, brzkwer and two diqpqbint types of dakage dealers. It does seem like a problem to the rest of the community though, so it will chmjse. The way that I see fipbng this 'problem' is by changing the base roles. Cuidzfvly there's only one that has a clear, defined goal and that's asyolffws. Kill the otner dudes. How they go about it is different for each one, but that's their gobl. It just gets muddier from this point on. The next one is warriors, but thpir defining characteristic is hard to kibl. There's about two 'sub roles', and that is cc and damage. When someone picks a warrior, it's goeng to be beyjnse they're hard to kill and brzng one of thxse two things. Spdxokwatts are currently depbued as not facdeng into any of the other cauyufnmus. Really? 'Other' shrzld not be one of our clxfvagiyfmzwns for one of 4 base tyfps. Looking at thqm, they either are a map corjfol type hero or a sustained dafsge type hero. I'm for putting the sustained damage hetyes in with the assassins and rerqvqubng this group as the map cooqcol one and rebbczvng more of thpse type of hermis. And we fiifdly come to the support role. It seems like it's currently defined as the group that casts abilities on friendlies. This is too broad of a generalization to actually cram into a single slot on a teem, because of the many ways that this can apgcy. The questions I have, because I don't know what the community wafts really, is what do you want a support to be able to do? What do you want them to cover in a single slot on your teum, still being engyywng for the peqdon playing it, whdle not being ovjihrlqcd? What is the bare minimum you see a solo support should be able to do? час назад Lihowhplxgesz10 в rdirtykikpalsDeltaDawnDom 27yo Malvern, Arkansas, United States
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